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  Cooperate Members of the Watchtower Society

  by James Jack in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a older sister in miami florida has told me that the special pioneer couple who got their walking papers last week said they are also voting members of the watchtower society.

  also his stock share is valued at $800,000!.

  i did some research and spoke to some longtime witnesses and found out that there are 500 voting members of the society and they are also called shareholders.. has anyone ever of someone selling his share?.

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  I say this without evidence but perhaps back in the forties, Knorr and those closest to power devised a new company in which to put shares and made themselves shareholders.

  Like everyone else who has looked at it there are no clues to the financial backing or security of the org. Is it an agreement with a bank or a private consortium? Whatever it is the governance of the org whichever name it goes under, is hell bent on making and holding on to money...far more than a doomsday cult would ever need if there really were such a thing as Armageddon "practically on our doorstep".
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  Cooperate Members of the Watchtower Society

  by James Jack in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a older sister in miami florida has told me that the special pioneer couple who got their walking papers last week said they are also voting members of the watchtower society.

  also his stock share is valued at $800,000!.

  i did some research and spoke to some longtime witnesses and found out that there are 500 voting members of the society and they are also called shareholders.. has anyone ever of someone selling his share?.

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  When it comes to matter WTBTS, the word "seemingly" can be extremely misleading.
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  Cooperate Members of the Watchtower Society

  by James Jack in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a older sister in miami florida has told me that the special pioneer couple who got their walking papers last week said they are also voting members of the watchtower society.

  also his stock share is valued at $800,000!.

  i did some research and spoke to some longtime witnesses and found out that there are 500 voting members of the society and they are also called shareholders.. has anyone ever of someone selling his share?.

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  Saint B, I had read the same info a couple of years ago (probably supplied by Orphan Crow on another site) but there was no mention of the original shareholders and the value of those shares or the realisation of the value or the termination of the earlier shares.

  To have it confirmed would at least put it to bed, otherwise a personal financial investment could so easily translate into business-first selfish rewards sought from the WTBTS. It may have been possible to obscure the status of the original shareholders with the promise of "look no more financially interested shareholding" but still leaving the original shareholders to make profits?
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  Cooperate Members of the Watchtower Society

  by James Jack in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a older sister in miami florida has told me that the special pioneer couple who got their walking papers last week said they are also voting members of the watchtower society.

  also his stock share is valued at $800,000!.

  i did some research and spoke to some longtime witnesses and found out that there are 500 voting members of the society and they are also called shareholders.. has anyone ever of someone selling his share?.

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  Just a thought; when Knorr, the pragmatic stoney faced business mind, began to preside in 1942, no doubt he had legitimate business shares in the WTBTS. Even in photos from Rutherford's time, Knorr was there with his defensive cane in hand protecting the queen bee JFR. He looked distinctly sycophantic. He wanted to inherit Rutherford's kingdom. It would appear politic or to use JW terminology,"theocratic" for him to abolish the monetary shares in the society in 1945 but would it not be in his financial and power interests to honour the original investments?

  Ok, I am cynical of the intent of the WT leadership but it would be in keeping or would it not?
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  Cooperate Members of the Watchtower Society

  by James Jack in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a older sister in miami florida has told me that the special pioneer couple who got their walking papers last week said they are also voting members of the watchtower society.

  also his stock share is valued at $800,000!.

  i did some research and spoke to some longtime witnesses and found out that there are 500 voting members of the society and they are also called shareholders.. has anyone ever of someone selling his share?.

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  I should like to ask: does anyone have any idea of what happened to the stock value of the WTBTS before the cut off date in the forties and does it still continue among the inheritors of the original stock holders ...or was it realised at that time and henceforth abolished? This does require an answer.

  If it continues, it would explain the need for commercial success irrespective of the requirement for simply being prudent and solvent.

  Thanks Saint B, perhaps others might have some idea of what happened in the 1940s.
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  Cooperate Members of the Watchtower Society

  by James Jack in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a older sister in miami florida has told me that the special pioneer couple who got their walking papers last week said they are also voting members of the watchtower society.

  also his stock share is valued at $800,000!.

  i did some research and spoke to some longtime witnesses and found out that there are 500 voting members of the society and they are also called shareholders.. has anyone ever of someone selling his share?.

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  This could be most interesting if true . I knew of the "shareholding" voters but wasn't aware of their financial stake in the business success of the Watchtower org. I felt I was led to understand they were non-profit shareholders. (Was there ever such a thing?) This would be a different kettle of fish!

  This makes the monetary incentive to keep the WTBTS literally businesslike an absolute requirement. It entirely validates the criticism that I amongst others have made, that their doctrines are primarily commercial decisions. Damn the belieifs and forget religious scruples...what really counts is the value of the shares!

  I understand (but would welcome correction) that the shareholders are "company men", that is those whose loyalty to the org is unquestioned. Your information would make the revision in my thinking that company men have also to be well heeled and able to afford the latest in expensive wrist watches as well, even if they were special pioneers or gb members.

  James Jack, could there be stock invested from before the 1944/5 cut off point?

  Please reveal sources.
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  Proof of Predation 750 000 000 Years Ago

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  paleontologists have discovered the cause of small holes that have frequently been observed in ancient eukaryote fossils.

  please check out the source even if you only look at the amazing picture.... they were being sucked dry by other predatory species.. forget about a "fall" from a disneyesque utopia.

  creatures have been consuming each other since the very beginning of life.. reality is far more exciting than fantasy.

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  How wise of our loving heavenly father to have formed his earthly creation to kill each other for survival...
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  3 words to describe.....

  by punkofnice in

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  ..your experience with the watchtower corporation:.

  i'll start...... bully boy elders.

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  (If I may borrow your word Punky)

  Manipulative fixated deviants
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  The Tale Of River Song

  by River Song in

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  2. experiences

  hello all, thanks for all the warm welcomes this weekend.

  there was some interest in my origins story so here goes.. i am a born in, never baptised.

  my parents were immigrants who knew no one in a new town in a new country when they got love bombed into the cult.

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  Welcome River song, thanks for writing your experience of growing up as a JW. Ordinary life can be difficult enough without having religious zealots getting you to conform to their absurd demands.

  Oh! the joy of not being a Jehovah’s Witness!
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  A call from family - Armageddon this month!

  by kaik in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i very seldom receive a call from my jw siblings, i mean seldom.

  i can count them on my hand in past 10 years.

  while we talk about mom a lot and i am in touch with her, i was very surprised when i received this call.

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  @Amelia Ashton, yes; It happened invisibly! How many more times can they successfully use this ploy?

  I await the announcement that Armageddon and paradise did arrive back in 1975 when the governing body began to rule on Earth.